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I just had a 2013 '86 with 77k miles inspected by RAC. It's £10,700. I've screenshotted some of the report below. Most of the essential stuff the dealer is dealing with for me, although I haven't sent him the report yet. The rust looks pretty bad right? But the inspector said it was 'surface rust' so how would I get that dealt with? How problematic do you think it'll be? The report also mentioned the exhaust system having limited life because of external corrosion. I'm guessing that won't be cheap to replace? The brakes and tyres I'm not bothered about, I was expecting wear and tear.

I'm a bit iffy that the engine was warm when the inspector arrived. I've test driven it myself and it seemed great, but I'm not car savvy.

I was thinking to take the report to a Toyota dealership tomorrow to get some advice but let me know what you think. Like I said I don't know cars so anything is helpful.

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My first question is will this be a daily drive or more of a weekend car.?
As the issues do need addressing it is all about time scale.
If the engine, transmission and electrics are sound then the rest is sortable.
It is surface rust. But about right for age. It does need sorting. Basically up on ramps cleaning and treating and checking other areas. For me it would be a labour of love but it might not be your thing.
You have done the right thing getting an inspection. Do you have a good local independent garage you trust? As there is a reasonable amount of money to be spent but not all at once.

Have you been able to look at any other BRZs or 86s to compare?
 

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My first question is will this be a daily drive or more of a weekend car.?
As the issues do need addressing it is all about time scale.
If the engine, transmission and electrics are sound then the rest is sortable.
It is surface rust. But about right for age. It does need sorting. Basically up on ramps cleaning and treating and checking other areas. For me it would be a labour of love but it might not be your thing.
You have done the right thing getting an inspection. Do you have a good local independent garage you trust? As there is a reasonable amount of money to be spent but not all at once.

Have you been able to look at any other BRZs or 86s to compare?
Hi, thank you for your input! Mostly a weekender, occasional commutes to work. A road trip or two a year if COVID allows. I do have a local garage I trust thankfully.

Yes the cleaning and treating isn't my thing. I'm happy to pay someone to do it as long as it won't cost me an arm and a leg but I have no idea how much this would cost. I'm thinking if overall repairs will be over 2k I may as well look at lower mileage examples, but they'll be the same year. So maybe not?

I haven't driven any others but I know I should. Problem is most of them are far from me and getting there is a problem. The inspector did test drive the car himself and said all seemes good, aside from the warm start.
 

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Rust is always an emotive topic where cars are concerned, but nothing like the type of issue it was on cars years ago. Like (I believe all) Toyotas for some years now, the 86 has a 12 year anti perforation warranty, so you can reasonably expect one to get to well past that age before corrosion is likely to be a serious issue.

The Toyota MR2 MK3 also came with a 12 year anti perforation warranty, it's a car I know pretty well and significant chassis corrosion on them in the UK (the oldest of which are now 21 years old) is still largely unheard of.

Of course the 86 was actually built by Subaru, but it still needed to meet Toyota's quality standards.

As for the exhaust system, stock components of the system can be picked up in decent condition used at reasonable prices (due to the popularity of aftermarket exhausts).

Obviously would be a good idea for the areas of surface corrosion to be suitably treated. It is a point of negotiation with the dealer, perhaps a local specialist in this type of work could be found and the dealer contribute to the cost.
 

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There's nothing there that would scare me off if I was planning on keeping the car for 2-3 years, but you would need to budget a few hundred for an underseal even for that length of ownership as the rust could get bad enough to cause MOT failures within that time, depending on the conditions it used and stored in.

Looking on Autotrader, there's a few to choose from at that price if you're willing to travel and don't need the dealer's finance facilities and I suspect that, if you can wait, a better one would come along soon enough. Having said that, you could get hit by a bus next week and if that's the worst the inspection can find, it doesn't look like a bad car.

Get the dents sorted though. Driving a beautiful car with dents in should be an endorsable offence if you ask me.
 

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There's nothing there that would scare me off if I was planning on keeping the car for 2-3 years, but you would need to budget a few hundred for an underseal even for that length of ownership as the rust could get bad enough to cause MOT failures within that time, depending on the conditions it used and stored in.

Looking on Autotrader, there's a few to choose from at that price if you're willing to travel and don't need the dealer's finance facilities and I suspect that, if you can wait, a better one would come along soon enough. Having said that, you could get hit by a bus next week and if that's the worst the inspection can find, it doesn't look like a bad car.

Get the dents sorted though. Driving a beautiful car with dents in should be an endorsable offence if you ask me.
Hi, I'll be keeping it for at least 4 years. I've found one at least 30 miles from me being sold privately that's about £900 cheaper, slightly lower mileage, same year and the same spec. Considering going to take a look at that one, but obviously I'd need another inspection if I liked it.

You can probably tell I'm very indecisive! I'm going to tell the dealer I'll need him to contribute to the rust removal and some of the other issues and see how he responds. I'm not in a big rush and happy to walk away if it's not a good deal, problem is my lack of knowledge.

Definitely will get the dents sorted!
 

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Firstly i must appreciate the RAC guy for the thoroughness of his inspection. It is quite exhaustive.

Impt. points to note:

1. Last service was 2 years ago at 57K. Till then the car was dealer serviced and maintained. The current owner has done 20K miles without servicing. I will not touch such a car till its proven that the owner did an oil change himself.
2. It has had 4 previous owners, so is very overpriced for the age, mileage and owners.
3. All 4 tyres need replacement, so factor that cost in and please please get a good set of quality branded tyres from major brands (Michelin, Goodyear, Dunlop, Bridgestone, Continental) and not one of the cheap ditch finders.
4. The car needs underbody reseal every 6 yrs, so negotiate that the dealer gets it done before purchase. I would not buy a car with so much underbody rust as it might've been a coastal car or come from really snowy icy regions with a lot of grit salt damage.
5. The AC needs regassing and that needs to be done prior.

Net net, the car needs a lot of work in service and maintenance and gives me a view that it was neglected over the last couple of years and the car had the engine warmed up before RAC visit which is suspect. There is a lot of choice in the market, so i will walk away from this example and consider the RAC fees as investment for peace of mind.
 

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RAC inspection needs to be exhaustive, as I think that one is about £250???

Agree with BRZ, the car is overpriced for one sitting on 77k, with the last service shown at 57k - I hadn't looked at the service history comments. Cars with that sort of hole in the service history can be harder to resell. Wouldn't necessarily put me off buying altogether, but I personally would want to be paying alot less than 10.7k .

However as Mullinsm points out (willingness to travel / need for dealer finance) knowing more about your budget / personal preferences helps alot in tailoring any advice. If the above car is the one matching that price and mileage on Autotrader it's an Automatic.

If you are solely looking at Autos then the market is certainly more limited, giving you alot less options within your chosen budget and area.

There's a very nice looking Automatic on Autotrader for £15k, but probably more than you want to spend......

Please be sure to have a good look at the service history yourself before getting the RAC along when looking at any other examples (not saying you didn't with this example 🙂 ).
 

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Seems a lot more rust than my Dec 62 plate. I am currently on 40k miles and had full Toyota service history. Don’t know where you are based. Best to drive a few and check condition. You’re welcome to drive mine. Based West Yorkshire. I am contemplating selling if I decide to purchase latest GR86 or Yaris Gr. my ball park figure would be £9,250.
 
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