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Dave I thought you were actually in trouble mate!
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Does it really change the throttle response? I thought it was all to do with theVSC and TCS!
Does it really change the throttle response? I thought it was all to do with theVSC and TCS!
VSC Sport has absolutely nothing to do with the sound of the engine or throttle response,it's a VSC setting that sits in between VSC ON & VSC OFF,
IE As follows VSC ON= Very little traction loss before throttle is reduced. VSC SPORT=Rear tyres will loss traction to a degree before throttle is reduced & finally VSC OFF=Bloody hell I'm heading backwards into a hedge or even worse a SOLID object!!!
IE As follows VSC ON= Very little traction loss before throttle is reduced. VSC SPORT=Rear tyres will loss traction to a degree before throttle is reduced & finally VSC OFF=Bloody hell I'm heading backwards into a hedge or even worse a SOLID object!!!
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You made me go out for a play mate to test it.
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1st time hard into roundabouts with the sport mode on......
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Thats really a matter of control.. Learn to drift in sports mode, and u can handle it off too, try to learn with it off, and u will meet a tree rearend first.. 
I've been doing some nices slides so far, with sport on, and it does manage rather nicely before it cuts power
I've been doing some nices slides so far, with sport on, and it does manage rather nicely before it cuts power
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Turn it off then.
On balance you'd be hard pushed to argue it hasn't moved car technology on
On balance you'd be hard pushed to argue it hasn't moved car technology on
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I would add that I think it's a far better bet to get some tuition on track on or an airfield as I don't think you can learn to drift or slide the rear end around without learning how to balance throttle and steering inputs.
I think that even using hte sport mode, it doesn't allow much slip and though I guess one could learn a little about steering input, the system won't let you modulate the throttle as it does it for you.
I think stability control is more to stop the masses going into hedge backwards, but I guess we should be thankful that in some ways it does allow manufacturers to still produce fun handling cars (once the nannying bad aids are off of course).
I think that even using hte sport mode, it doesn't allow much slip and though I guess one could learn a little about steering input, the system won't let you modulate the throttle as it does it for you.
I think stability control is more to stop the masses going into hedge backwards, but I guess we should be thankful that in some ways it does allow manufacturers to still produce fun handling cars (once the nannying bad aids are off of course).
Yeah that's the video that's stopped me turning the VSC fully off, that and the Yank on the FT86 forum who trashed his F-RS on a corner he knew well and decided to have a go with it fully off.
When the VSC really counts is when something suddenly happens that you weren't expecting and you have to make sudden large steering movements.
Had it happen in the Celica when someone started to pull out into the lane I was overtaking them in (I was going considerably quicker!) it went into a massive tank slapper, without the VSC I doubt it would have stayed shiny side up and between the barriers.
Turn it off if you want to play drifting, but I'd recommend leaving it on most of the time as you never know when it might save your arse.
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When the VSC really counts is when something suddenly happens that you weren't expecting and you have to make sudden large steering movements.
Had it happen in the Celica when someone started to pull out into the lane I was overtaking them in (I was going considerably quicker!) it went into a massive tank slapper, without the VSC I doubt it would have stayed shiny side up and between the barriers.
Turn it off if you want to play drifting, but I'd recommend leaving it on most of the time as you never know when it might save your arse.
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A question: does the VSC Sport light come on with the TC off sign ( car skidding symbol) at the same time ?
I was playing this morning and thought I had the VSC Sport light came on its own on , then only the two were on, - I am confused - help! ?
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I was playing this morning and thought I had the VSC Sport light came on its own on , then only the two were on, - I am confused - help! ?
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I cannot drive the bloody thing without the button down - mostly because it b uggers up the throttle response and my gearchanging goes all to rats'. AND it's far too nannying anyway, I agree.
I can almost guarantee that the VSC will save a LOT of souls inexperienced with RWD once the weather gets a lot wetter and colder. You can still cross it all up & nothing will save you if you're really daft though, so it's no panacea.
I can almost guarantee that the VSC will save a LOT of souls inexperienced with RWD once the weather gets a lot wetter and colder. You can still cross it all up & nothing will save you if you're really daft though, so it's no panacea.
It's the fully off mode that I'm suggesting is not a good habit to get into doing all the time. I tend to drive with the Sport mode on most of the time.
It's just the idea of how bad things could have been in the Celica on that one time I really needed it, at least if you do turn it fully off it resets when you restart the car.
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It's just the idea of how bad things could have been in the Celica on that one time I really needed it, at least if you do turn it fully off it resets when you restart the car.
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